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[personal profile] rmd
Sometimes, there are ghost ships on the oceans - vessels that have been ripped away from their moorings by a tsunami, or just found abandoned drifting (or in the case of the Mary Celeste, abandoned but still under sail).

But right now, there is a ship - the Lyubov Orlova, which used to be a cruise ship - drifting across the Atlantic. Not all of its lifeboat EPIRBs have triggered, so some of the lifeboats (and presumably the rest of the main vessel) are above the waterline. It appears to be drifting towards the UK, and it is likely full of cannibalistic rats.

Date: 2014-01-23 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
Well that's a story idea horrifying.

Date: 2014-01-23 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
It's BOTH!

Also, if we leave the ship alone for a couple of million years, the rats will evolve into sentient civilized critters, like Cat on Red Dwarf.

Date: 2014-01-23 05:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wrog
I'm a little confused. I'll grant that I probably don't want to unroll a sleeping bag in the bilge area and settle down for the night.

But it seems like a few hundred isn't exactly "full" for a ship that size. And I'd expect the number has been getting progressively smaller, if there's no actual food on board. The few remaining may be really, really hungry, but I'd also expect they'd be really, really weak.

Or do rats go "bad"? As in, now that they're cannibals, they've crossed the Rat Moral Event Horizon and they'll never be able to integrate properly into rat communities? I mean, if this ship should happen to hit shore somewhere and the rats get out, are they going to be that much different from the rats that are already there, i.e., once they find a bit of food and settle down?

(ok, yes, it'll suck if it hits shore in a place where rats were eradicated centuries ago, but I thought the UK and Ireland mostly already have rats).
Edited Date: 2014-01-23 05:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-01-23 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
I don't actually know how rats handle becoming non-cannibalistic. The most recent Bond film touched on this topic, but one should never believe a Bond villain: "You just leave it. And they begin to get hungry, then one by one, they start eating each other, until there are only two left. The two survivors. And then what - do you kill them? No. You take them, and release them into the trees. Only now, they don't eat coconut anymore. Now they will only eat rat."

In the rat-infested cinema of my imagination, they've somehow managed to find a giant supply of grain and so the ship is positively *teeming* with rats. About like things starting at 1:04 in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IOwinLWrEIw#t=63?).
Edited Date: 2014-01-23 05:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-01-23 06:22 pm (UTC)
wrog: (crunch)
From: [personal profile] wrog
um. Last I checked, rats aren't vegetarian, so even in their initial state they wouldn't touch coconut.

Also if this were actually true, seems to me you'd want to create bunches of cannibal rats, release them into, say, New York, so that they can go down into the sewers and eat all of the other rats (file under: Reasons I Should Not Be an Urban Planner, Part XVI)

Date: 2014-01-23 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
They're omnivores, so I assume they'd eat coconut. I don't know if they'd go for the whole "put the lime in the coconut" combo, but you never know.

Date: 2014-01-23 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dfjdejulio.livejournal.com
Eep. My brain keeps going "BEST EVER SURVIVAL HORROR LARP".

Date: 2014-01-23 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dfjdejulio.livejournal.com
I doubt they'll learn to fish, but I wonder if birds ever land on the thing?

Date: 2014-01-23 07:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ceo
I've seen a spate of stories on this today, but as far as I can tell there's been no sign of it for a year.

Date: 2014-01-23 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
Yes!!

Date: 2014-01-23 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
Yeah. The article I posted was dated today, which is presumably why it's all over the net right now.

I would assume that if it went down in the interval, the EPIRBs on the remaining lifeboats would trigger, though. Maybe the rats ate the EPIRBs.

Date: 2014-01-23 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audioboy.livejournal.com
Of course, this has sparked all the PMRP folks to reminisce about our production of "Three Skeleton Key" a few years ago, in which three lighthouse keepers are assaulted by a hoard of rats unleashed on them from a derelict ship.

Date: 2014-01-24 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kjc.livejournal.com
Heh. I saw the story before I saw your post & it reminded me of an anecdote you once shared (I don't remember if it happened to you or you saw it online) in which a student, when asked what happens when a cage fills with too many rats, said they go gay.

Date: 2014-01-24 10:16 am (UTC)
gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (just me - ginger)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
I was just thinking that. Was it recorded or should I point to the original?

Damn

Date: 2014-01-26 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kjc.livejournal.com
Stupid debunkers, always ruining my fun.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/80017/a-ghost-ship-full-of-cannibal-rats-was-reported-near-britain-but-here-s-the-real-story

Date: 2014-02-09 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audioboy.livejournal.com
It was recorded, but it's one of the titles we have for sale, so it's not available online. I'd point to the original (though I'm replying to this a tad late. :/ )

Date: 2014-02-09 05:49 pm (UTC)
gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (Default)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
I'll purchase it then. :)

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