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Via the geek feminism blog, I found this paper with lots of data about gender and free/open source software. interesting.

1.2 Key Findings

Listed below are the factors significant in excluding women from F/LOSS communities. These factors are nearly all underwritten by a central cultural dynamic within F/LOSS. F/LOSS participants, as in most scientific cultures, view technology as an autonomous field, separate from people. This means that anything they interpret as ‘social’ is easily dismissed as ‘artificial’ social conditioning. Because this ‘conditioning’ is considered more or less arbitrary, in their view it is supposed to be easily cast aside by individuals choosing to ignore it. F/LOSS also has a deeply voluntarist ethos which values notions of individual autonomy and volition. As a result participants largely do not believe that gender has anything to do with their own individual actions. The situation is thereby perpetuated in spite of the expressed desire for change.

1.2.1 Women are actively (if unconsciously) excluded rather than passively disinterested. The effect lies within F/LOSS cultural and social arrangements. The exclusion happens among people who often do not mean to appear, and who do not interpret their own actions, as hostile to women. The effect is an outcome of the importance given to the individual as the sole carrier of agency.

1.2.2 F/LOSS communities actively perpetuate a ‘hacker’ ethic, which situates itself outside the ‘mainstream’ sociality, but equates women with that mainstream. Women are treated as either alien Other or (in online contexts) are assumed to be male and thus made invisible. Women are seen as innately more able to organise, communicate and negotiate among F/LOSS projects as well as with the outside world. Thereby they become carriers of sociality that is seen in a contrast to the 'technical' realm ascribed to men. Additionally F/LOSS women receive a high level of attention due to their gender which decreases their feeling of acceptance as community members as well as their willingness to further engage with the community.

1.2.3 F/LOSS rewards the producing code rather than the producing software. It thereby puts most emphasis on a particular skill set. Other activities such as interface design or documentation are understood as less 'technical' and therefore less prestigious. This has consequences both for the lower valuation of activities in which F/LOSS women often engage as well as for the software itself which often is still oriented more towards the developer rather than the user.

1.2.4 F/LOSS production and infrastructure is designed and built assuming contributors have a long history with computers, but women tend to engage later in their lives with computers. In order to join women have a larger amount of catching up work to do, which they must do in an environment that almost exclusively values independent discovery.

1.2.5 Inflammatory talk and aggressive posturing (‘flaming’) is accepted within many F/LOSS projects as a key means of developing reputation. Whereas more established F/LOSS members engage less in ‘flame wars’, people still establishing their reputation often use them as a platform to make themselves visible. This is often off-putting for newcomers and less experienced contributors who are not yet familiar with the community, its norms, or its real hierarchy. The effect is particularly pronounced in the case of women, who in most cases have a shorter history in computing and therefore less confidence in defending themselves on technical grounds. ‘Flaming’ thus exacerbates the confidence difficulties women tend to have as a result of lower levels of previous computing experiences.

1.2.6 The reliance on long hours of intensive computing in writing successful code means that men, who in general assume that time outside of waged labour is ‘theirs’, are freer to participate than women, who normally still assume a disproportionate amount of domestic responsibilities. Female F/LOSS participants, however, seem to be able to allocate a disproportionate larger share of their leisure time for their F/LOSS activities. This gives an indication that women who are not able to spend as much time on voluntary activities have difficulties to integrate into the community.

Date: 2010-07-11 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-leonardo.livejournal.com
huh. doesn't reflect my subjective experience, but i can understand how it might reflect someone else's, and that's a sad thing.

Date: 2010-07-11 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
yeah. since i don't generally read as "girly girl", a lot of the overt behavior that more stereotypically 'women' kind of women get passes me by. and i can see it hitting other women.

Date: 2010-07-12 02:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tb
I think there's a generational element as well. I've gather things have gotten worse recently; "The percentage of women in IT is the lowest since the 1970s" has been quoted a lot lately. Back in the late 80's/early 90's I certainly ran across boys' club bullshit, but I was somewhat protected by a combination of exceptional woman syndrome and being on the autistic spectrum, plus I don't recall overt rape and death threats being as much part of on-line culture as they are today. Younger geeky women of my acquaintance can tell some real horror stories, and I believe them.

Today's even more hostile atmosphere strikes me as desperate wagon-circling by those who have not yet figured out that they're obsolete and irrelevant, but "wait it out" is not a useful perspective for people currently targeted by the vileness. I wish I had a better idea.

Date: 2010-07-11 10:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] flit.livejournal.com
I have in work noticed a tendency to get shoved towards documentation and communication, even though I was always stronger at more technical aspects of my job such as scripting and risk analysis. This extended to the point of getting reprimanded for not bringing technical ideas to 40 person group meetings where I was the third or fourth most outspoken person of my peers, getting a yearly review which praised me for my documentation skills -- I hadn't done any that year -- and didn't mention my engineering skills -- I had focused exclusively on that in that year, and done well.

There was a spectacular case of a manager who would reject any suggestion that I presented. One of my male co-workers tested this by then presenting the identical suggestion five minutes later and getting praised for it. Hilariously, he then called him right then and there on having shot me down five minutes earlier.

And this was all in a *professional* environment. I've been interested in getting involved in F/LOSS if I get well enough to work again, because it's a source of technical work I can ease into, but I have to admit that some of the barriers are daunting. I've mounted them before but it gets old and I start to wonder why I am working for jerks... for free.

I have noticed some of this

Date: 2010-07-12 04:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drwex
In particular since I fall into the design camp rather than the coding camp I particularly see 1.2.2 and 1.2.3 in action a lot.

Re: I have noticed some of this

Date: 2010-07-15 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foldedfish.livejournal.com
Hell, I'm in interface design and I'm male and see 1.2.3 in action a lot, so I can only imagine it's like for someone with two X chromosomes.

Date: 2010-07-12 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dfjdejulio.livejournal.com
Any good discussions of *solutions* anywhere?

Date: 2010-07-13 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achinhibitor.livejournal.com
Though to some degree I have to wonder if it really matters. Are women poorer in some way because fewer of them follow in the footsteps of RMS? People don't fret if women are less involved sports fans than men, or other odd hobbies.

Date: 2010-07-13 04:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] muffyjo
People don't fret if women is an interesting part of a sentence, all to itself. Which people? Because I am hearing a whole lot of women who are actively interested in more sports, more mathematical and more technical careers who are constantly being pushed aside. I'm guessing the people you are referencing here aren't predominately women.

The assumption I'm hearing in your statement is that they are not interested which has some value. I would offer this article. The NSF identified a key obstacle preventing girls from selecting engineering careers in a qualitative consumer research study which states, “Current engineering messages portray engineering as challenging and stress the importance of superior math and science abilities … . Professional interests for high school girls hinge upon relevance. Relevance incorporates that a job is rewarding, and it suggests that the profession is for someone ‘like me.’”

A bit of a horse and cart issue, to be sure. But when given the right opportunity, like at Dreamwidth the statistics show large numbers of women engaged and participating.

When the culture is welcoming, the number of females interested in participating seems to increase dramatically. I'm guessing it's not due to lack of interest.

Date: 2010-07-13 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
yes. considering that open source projects are frequently suggested as a way for people to hone coding skills in order to buff up a skillset (particularly for people looking to move into or to advance a coding career), i would say that they were poorer for this monetarily, in fact.

Date: 2010-07-13 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dfjdejulio.livejournal.com
Are women poorer in some way because fewer of them follow in the footsteps of RMS?
It doesn't just have to be women that are poorer for it.

Date: 2010-07-13 04:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] muffyjo
This is fascinating. Thank you for sharing!

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